Match surprises?

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Anonymous (not verified)
interviewed at 15, no match

interviewed at 15, no match

Anonymous (not verified)
15 interviews

 and also no match

Anonymous (not verified)
Match Surprises.

Was told by 2 of my top 3 programs that If I wanted to match at their program, they'd rank me #1.  I told one of they programs they were my #1, and didn't match at any program.  I went on 12 Interviews, and had 14 interview offers.  Board scores of Step 1: 263/Step 2:269.  Felt good about interviews but obviously missed the boat somewhere! 

actingdoc
double applying?

Do you think many people double applied, or are the non-matchers just out of luck for this year? I didnt get the sense on the trail that many people were applying in other fields as back up, but I also never really asked.

Anonymous (not verified)
Back up plan

I have no back up plan. ANy ideas or suggestions? How easy it is to get into general surgery prelim spot? this happened to me last year, and it was a surprise for certain. yes, did think a certain PD really liked me and did not make the cut apparently. too many talented people.matched this year. diff place. no surprises this year.good luck for your future plans. hold out strong, it will work out.[/quote]Any opinion on research year vs. prelim surgery?[/quote]In similar boat. Is it too late to go for a prelim surg spot? Threw an app out there for surg but was late in the season so only 1 interview.[/quote]

Anonymous (not verified)
reapply

Whats the success rate of those that reapply with a research year, I haven't heard of much success in this department.  

Anonymous (not verified)
I'm sorry to hear about those

I'm sorry to hear about those of you that didn't match.  Try not to be too hard on yourself, although I know it's frustrating.  I didn't match last year and my situation was much like everyone else posting here.  I interviewed at 10+ places, had very good numbers, and I was shocked.  This year worked out much better for me.  Here is some general advice:1) Figure out how important Urology is as a career for you.  A lot of you probably have a good shot at matching next year, but it is a lot of work.  There are many other excellent fields besides Urology.  Reapplying means lots of time, energy, and money over the next year of your life.2) Decide whether to do preliminary year or research time.  Prelim year is more work, but I think it gives you the best shot at matching right away and a small shot at a PGY-2 position.  I'd suggest doing 2 years of research if you are planning to go that route, because you won't have much published prior to Sept 15th.  I have met numerous people that matched either way.For prelim year, it's not too late at all to find a program.  I cold-called about a dozen prelim programs.  Some might offer you an in-person interview, some offered phone interviews, and one offered to rank me without ever speaking with me.  Choose one that has a Urology program that you think you would like and be prepared to ingratiate yourself with them as soon as you step foot on campus.  Try to prioritize places that will maximize your Urology exposure early in the year.3) Once you have made your plan, dedicate yourself.  You need to be able to convince programs that a mistake was made last year, match screwed you, and that they are lucky to have you interviewing.  Basically, you're gonna have to work hard.  Every interview you have will ask two questions: "Why do you think that you did not match?" and "What have you done since that day?"  Obviously, you will need good answers.4) When it comes time to reapply, figure out your financials and decide how much you are willing to invest in application fees and interview costs.  My philosophy was that I had to match this year regardless of expense, so I made myself have to have very strong reasons not to apply to certain programs.  Not everyone has that luxury.  Just know that you won't get a lot of repeat interviews the 2nd time around.  I re-interviewed at  roughly 20% of the places from the previous match year.I hope this helps and I wish everyone luck with whatever choices they make.  If you have any further questions, just continue to post them and I will try to get back to you.  Another option is to leave contact information and I'll get in touch with you individually.  Good luck!

Anonymous (not verified)
help

Anonymous User wrote:
I'm sorry to hear about those of you that didn't match.  Try not to be too hard on yourself, although I know it's frustrating.  I didn't match last year and my situation was much like everyone else posting here.  I interviewed at 10+ places, had very good numbers, and I was shocked.  This year worked out much better for me.  Here is some general advice:1) Figure out how important Urology is as a career for you.  A lot of you probably have a good shot at matching next year, but it is a lot of work.  There are many other excellent fields besides Urology.  Reapplying means lots of time, energy, and money over the next year of your life.2) Decide whether to do preliminary year or research time.  Prelim year is more work, but I think it gives you the best shot at matching right away and a small shot at a PGY-2 position.  I'd suggest doing 2 years of research if you are planning to go that route, because you won't have much published prior to Sept 15th.  I have met numerous people that matched either way.For prelim year, it's not too late at all to find a program.  I cold-called about a dozen prelim programs.  Some might offer you an in-person interview, some offered phone interviews, and one offered to rank me without ever speaking with me.  Choose one that has a Urology program that you think you would like and be prepared to ingratiate yourself with them as soon as you step foot on campus.  Try to prioritize places that will maximize your Urology exposure early in the year.3) Once you have made your plan, dedicate yourself.  You need to be able to convince programs that a mistake was made last year, match screwed you, and that they are lucky to have you interviewing.  Basically, you're gonna have to work hard.  Every interview you have will ask two questions: "Why do you think that you did not match?" and "What have you done since that day?"  Obviously, you will need good answers.4) When it comes time to reapply, figure out your financials and decide how much you are willing to invest in application fees and interview costs.  My philosophy was that I had to match this year regardless of expense, so I made myself have to have very strong reasons not to apply to certain programs.  Not everyone has that luxury.  Just know that you won't get a lot of repeat interviews the 2nd time around.  I re-interviewed at  roughly 20% of the places from the previous match year.I hope this helps and I wish everyone luck with whatever choices they make.  If you have any further questions, just continue to post them and I will try to get back to you.  Another option is to leave contact information and I'll get in touch with you individually.  Good luck!
 Hey my email is dxr182@case.edu. If you wouldn't mind emailing me I'd like to bounce some ideas off of you. Thanks.

Anonymous (not verified)
It will work out!

I didn't match my first yr applying. Average to below board scores. I did a research yr, worked my ass off ( was actually able to interview for the research spot my 4th yr and when I got the spot I worked on any research with anyone I could during the last 4-5 months of med school)  and was able to def have publications and or abstracts by application time. I also had strong LOR from where I was doing research. I ended up matching at my #3 the next yr. if you really want something, work hard and it will work out in the end!! I wish you all the best!

Anonymous (not verified)
Thank you for your advise

Thank you so much for such a wonderful advise. I had a couple of questions and was hoping you can clarify for me. 1) To apply to prelim positions is it OK if we did not apply for gen surgery residency at all? Do we need to get letters from General surgeons as we currently have letters from urologists? DO we need to change the personal statement and stuff2) Do we have to wait till March 10th to apply for prelim position or do you think we can start contacting or e-mailing program right now as we did not match.3) If I have already taken a year off to do research and Masters do you think it will be better for me to do prelim surgery or one more year of urology research to show I am still interested.4) In case after prelim year you match in urology do you have to redo the gen surgery 1 year again? Thanks a lot again.! 

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